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[Please note, unless I get some substantial new information, this page will not be updated- 3/11/03]
2002 is proving to be a very difficult year, after four years of extremely dry conditions, fires have caught up with Philmont. In attempt to show others what is going on at Philmont, I have setup this webpage to share the images and information with others.
North Country will be re-opened in a limited use! (7/8/02)
Philmont's North Country is closed- Read the bulletin; MS Word format or Adobe Acrobat (6/6/02)
The Ponil Complex fire is 100% contained.- http://www.pnw-team2.com/ponilcomplex/index.html (no updates past 6/18/02)
Disclaimer: This webpage is an independent effort by me, Phil Romans. Neither Philmont nor the BSA supports this effort.
If you have information or pictures of this event, please email me!
Quick links!
Published news
Informational Sites
Fire Maps
Reports from Staff, current or past
Pictures
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Published news stories: [sorted by newest article by publication]
| Santa Fe New Mexican 6/12/02 | |
| Santa Fe New Mexican 6/11/02 | |
| Santa Fe New Mexican 6/10/02 | |
| Santa Fe New Mexican 6/9/02 | |
| Santa Fe New Mexican 6/9/02 | |
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Santa Fe New Mexican 6/7/02 |
| Taos News 6/10/02 | |
| Taos News 6/7/02 | |
| Taos News 6/5/02 |
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Fire sites:
| Ponil Complex Information- http://www.pnw-team2.com/ponilcomplex/index.html (updated daily) | |
| Southwest Area Wildland Fire Operations: http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/fire/swainfo/swainfo.htm | |
| Daily briefing of fire conditions in the southwest, Arizona, New Mexico, and parts of Texas: http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/fire/webdaily/swabrief.htm | |
| Wildland Fire Support: http://geomac.usgs.gov/ | |
| Route 204 is closed- The New Mexico State Police reports the closure of State Route 204 to all traffic. Route 204 extends northwest from Cimarron to Elliot Barker Wildlife Area. (from the Ponil Complex Information page) | |
| Fire analysis graphic: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/FIRE/ssdfire.html | |
| Incident Management situation report (in PDF format): http://www.nifc.gov/news/sitreprt.pdf | |
| Image of the 6/4/02 fire: http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Fires/US_Southwest/FHSusNM155_N5.jpg |
| 6/17/02 Map- "the fire boundary was such low resolution I
couldn't make heads nor tails of it. So I'm using that map to generate a
better one. Basically I'm deleting all "topo" info from it, just leaving the
lines. Then I'll overlay it on a 1:100000 scale USGS map of Philmont and
vicinity." From Steve H. High Res (2.26 megs) Low Res (389k) | |
| 6/13/02- Relief Map with overlaid Philmont outline "The black dashed line might be what this morning's NIFC PDF file was talking about when it said, "Crews are constructing indirect fireline on the west flank in preparation for a burn out operation."" | |
| Two new perimeter burn maps with overlaid Philmont outline 6/12/02- Relief map 6/12/02- Normal map | |
| Satellite image from 6/12/02, Ponil fire visible in lower part of image, taken from: http://www.osei.noaa.gov/OSEIiod.html | |
| Two new outlines of the fires with Philmont Map overlay: (thanks to
Steve!) June 8th map (based off of: http://www.earthanalytic.com/NENM_Fires.php) June 9th map (based off of: http://www.pnw-team2.com/ponilcomplex/maps.htm "Ponil Fire Perimeter") | |
| Topo map outline of the affected Ponil fire area: http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/fire/webdaily/swalargefires/pinal.jpg (6/7/02) | |
| Topo map outline with trace of Philmont map Fire in red, Philmont in yellow (6/7/02) | |
| Topo Maps of the fires- http://www.earthanalytic.com/NENM_Fires.php | |
| Fire maps: http://www.fs.fed.us/eng/rsac/fire_maps.html |
Link to infrared satellite images of the fire:
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Various reports, official releases, or input:
| From different Philmont Staff lists: (7/8/02): Reports are that the North Country will be re-opened in a limited fashion starting 7/15. Here are some of the reports from Philmont about this: "The fire area is, from the little I have seen
from the road and from what I have been told, incredible. Other-worldly was
one description. The area is still officially closed and off-limits (even to
Philmont professionals and staff) until the Forest Service allows people back
in. Doug said that when it was burning the whole horizon glowed red and
explosions would shoot fireballs into view over the ridges (he said it looked
like old films of London being bombed in WWII). Some areas burned so hot that
there are no "skeleton trees" standing, other areas (canyon bottoms, some
slopes) were missed entirely (to those who know these things, could the fire
have created enough heat to suck air out of the lower canyons and such?). Dick
said re-seeding had started (8,000+ acres) by air with native grasses to help
combat soil erosion, but he said they have not had time to start with a
long-range recovery plan that we might be able to help with via the PSA. There are a lot of things in the works and I know many of
us are. " "Yes, Virginia, there will be a North Country this summer,
but not all of the north country will open.The scatter process for North
Country has already begun! The camp staffs from Miranda and Pueblano are going
through each of the six camps this week to clean for Hantavirus, drop off
program gear, set up tents, etc. Ponil, Pueblano, Head of Dean, Miranda,
French Henry, and the remaining staff from Baldy will scatter July 12-14. The
staff from these camps will be gathered July 10-11. Once they arrive in camp,
their cabins should be clean, program equipment already dropped off, and
campsite maps hung, therefore, opening should be quite simple. Dan Beard, Dean
Cow, and the Valle camps will not reopen this year. For those in the valle,
we're not sure if the areas will be open and if so, we probably won't be able
to use them for that long. Either way, it was decided that the camps we didn't
open could use a well deserved rest for the next year. | |
| From a staff member (6/29/02): "clarks cito ponderosa webster catherdral hunting lodge shaefers pass north-fork-urraca camps were all evacuated. big camporee (in mark anderson's words) at cito turnaround (TA) that night. next morning many crews were bussed to different locales, ranging from cito turn around (TA) to stockade so they can hike up stockade and into base via tooth, to Lovers TA so they can hike to miners etc. at miners we were sent to evac N. fork and recieve crews from shaefers escorted by wranglers... sanctioned meadow crashing in miners meadow because those at shafers were told to leave camp with only sleeping bag. (better then those at cito etc told to get out and leave everything) anyway it was small, a couple acres,
and ponil resources were instantly diverted: dozers, choppers, hot shots, etc,
and it was out by next day. everything back to "normal", nevermind that the 20
some crews almost drained the water tank at cito!" | |
| From Mark Griffen, former Director of Philmont Training Center: I will share with you what I saw, as opposed to things I heard. It seems that there is a lot of speculation about things, but very few people that know have been in the fire area and observed the damage. I was able to make two trips into the fire area. I was very happy to see that a lot of the things I heard about camps were not true. The heroic efforts of the Philmont staff, the fire crews (and the dry, barren meadows) saved (so far) every cabin I was able to visit. In some cases it got very close to cabins though. The challenge is that it is still very dry - drier than I have ever seen New Mexico and Colorado - and even though they are now getting some rain the unburned areas are still in danger. There are a couple of program challenges I observed. A lot of area between camps was burned and would be difficult/unsafe/unhealthy to hike through to get to camps that are otherwise intact. And as I said, some of the camps are okay, but the campsites are burned. Here is what I saw: On Saturday (615) All along the roads from the Chase Ranch on we could see hot spots and flare ups all around. There was a big flare up around Old Camp after we had passed by. Small fires were moving up the hills around Cook Canyon. IW was fine. Even the latrines were okay. The fire had been on almost every ridge around the camp and had gone down into the meadow in places. (Some of the canyons around the camp have burned pretty completely and this could reveal some new petroglyphs and archeological sites.) Many of the hills around Old Camp had burned, but the fire stopped in the meadow. Dan Beard was the worst I saw. The cabins are fine, but all the latrines are gone. The fire came very close to the cabin, but the dirt field that used to be a meadow stopped the fire. Thank God for metal roofs. Ponil is fine. There are places where the fire came down to the meadow, but the crews fought it and every building is in good shape. Monday (617) Other than plumes popping up over ridges, and lots of vehicle tracks, there is little evidence of the fire on the drive towards Baldy until you get to the Baldy Skyline. Once you get up to the ridge it is really evident though. Head of Dean is fine. I saw no damage to anything but campsites. This was a staging area and a helo landing site so it was very active. The fire came close, but the stopped it and it looked like they had started some back burns on the road between HOD and Santa Claus. Santa Claus is fine too. The fire came very close, but you could tell that this was a place where there had been some very active firefighting. They made a cat line from near HOD to the Baldy timberline between Baldy and French. If they had not gotten it contained, they were going to start a back burn along this line to keep the fire away from BAldy, Ute Park, and Eagle Nest. So far they have not had to do this. There are places all over North Country that are untouched, some that are burned just a little, and some that are ash and black sticks. A couple of cavalcade corrals have burned because the dead grass inside the fence was not eaten by animals so it was taller and sparks that blew inside the fence. Even though it is contained, it is an active fire inside the containment area and fire resistant clothing is required to enter. Pray for continued rain! Other than that, Philmont is Philmont, just dry. The staff
is in good spirits and Scouts are having fun. A few staff from the North
Country camps that closed chose not to be relocated to a base camp job and
went home, but the majority of them see the big picture and are pitching in to
make this another great summer. The Ranch management is working very hard to
keep everyone safe and to keep the Philmont experience top-notch. They are
very busy as you might well understand. | |
| From a Scouter with troop members on the trail (6/27/02): "Our scoutmaster received a call from our crew leader today (6/26). Their last night on the trail at Ponderosa Camp was evacuated after dark due to fire. They were told to leave everything except essentials and hike out. They went back the next day to retrieve all gear left behind via Philmont vehicle. It seems it turned out to be purely precautionary. Philmont has an excellent plan in place to deal with this type of situation. Everyone receives a detailed evacuation plan prior to hitting the trail. No details yet as they are to arrive home tomorrow. Word is they had a GREAT time!" | |
| From a Scouter just returning from Philmont (6/26/02): "I just arrived back from Philmont on the 25th. I thought I should let all know whose itineraries take them to Cimmaroncito, Clark's Fork, Hunting Lodge, and all other camps in that vicinity that they have been closed. The lightning and rain storm that passed through on the 22nd caused a large fire at Clark's Fork (I was there that morning), and that camp as well as surrounding areas were evacuated. No injuries were reported. Anyways, that was the word for South Country on the 24th and 25th. I am unsure as to containment as no info was given on that. Good luck to all treks going this summer." | |
| From a parent of a staff member (6/24/02): "just a quick update from my part of the world. my son, called last sat. night, seems they were scattering his Baldytown crew to go up to camp for preparing the Baldytown area camps for campers in their area, as soon as they get approval from ranch management for safety and such. they were going up to "unwrap" French Henry and prepare Baldytown for the rest of the summer's activities. he will call me in about a week when he is down on next "days off"." | |
| From a staff member (6/22/02): "major rains these days, at Miners at least. massive lightening in the meadow last night at like 3am, but driving rain ensured no fire!" | |
| From Dawn Chandler Philmont Staff Association, Executive Director
(6/16/02) The fire is not out. It has burned approximately 92,500 acres. Twenty-thousand acres continues to be the estimated acreage burned on Philmont, with speculations that less than half of that area is "really black," or really devastatingly burned. They're saying that the fire is 60% contained. They are still trying to contain the west edge north and east of Baldy; the very rugged terrain is no doubt posing a particular challenge to the firefighters. There are 1300 fire fighters on the scene. Evening showers on Thursday and Friday helped to slow the fires a bit, bringing with them that glorious, never-to-be-forgotten-smell of New Mexico rain. The Philmont staff is doing an excellent job--as
anticipated. As I worked in the PSA office yesterday in Admin, I could hear
the radio chatter, and thought to myself that all of you would be encouraged
by the voices on the radio, chiming in from places like Apache Springs, Abreu,
Fish Camp, Ute Gulch, PJ and (can you believe it?) Black Mountain. Staff is
being vigilant about keeping their eyes (and noses!) out and reporting any
suspicious clouds or haze . | |
| From Dan in Eagles Nest (6/12/02):
There was a change in wind this afternoon. It is now blowing out of the north/north west. The end result is the Moreno Valley has filled with smoke. My house is high on the west side of the valley just south of Eagle Nest and I can barely see the lake. (less than two miles) The fire now totals 91k acres with over 1200 people
involved. The tents in Cimarron have out grown the rodeo grounds and baseball
fields and have expanded to the High School. We see daily smoke plumes from
our house and it looks like the " interior " fires are still crowning in the
daily canyon winds. No sign of slurry bombers today but I suspect they may be
busy in Denver. | |
| Possible 2002 Trek Changes, unofficial, includes information from Logistics: http://www.philstaff.com/20trekchan.html | |
| From a staff member (6/11/02): Staff from north has been relocated to Cito, as have some crews. rRght now still smoke visible from base. Mark Anderson does daily radio updates for all staff. apparently weather today will allow fighting in the valle between rich and seally. Itineraries were rearranged. South and central ones stayed same. Ones including north were changed! Now there is 1, 2, 3, 3FM, 4, 4FM, 5, 6 etc that is fire management special itinerary. | |
| From Randy King, who spoke with his son (6/10/02) he said they were scattered to Baldytown for fire/smoke triangulation day before yesterday at noon. the fire jumped the ridge just beyond Aztec Ridge and with high winds they went back and brought them in, just to be safe. that put them in Baldytown for 23 hours. Mark Anderson was their suburban driver both ways, they spotted lots of moving animals. they saw a huge bear about half way down to Miranda, they said he was hauling it pretty good to the south, moving away from the smoke. Garon said they were back in base camp until they get a better picture of the conditions up at Baldytown. | |
| Philmont's North Country is closed- Read the bulletin; MS Word format or Adobe Acrobat (6/6/02) | |
| From Andrew Dennis, staff at Cito (6/6/02)
We scatter today at 1pm. All is well and I am really happy to be getting out of base! The wind must have changed direction yesterday
because there was almost no smoke. However this morning there was very diffuse
smoke all across the horizon. I wouldn't be surprised is things heat up this
weekend. The south country is safe for now, but I am not holding my breath. | |
| From Dawn Chandler Philmont Staff Association, Executive Director (6/5/02) Wednesday morning, 5 June 2002 Friends, I am writing to you from the PSA Office in Philmont's Administration Building. With rumors flying, I just thought I'd try and tell you what I have observed here in the past 24 hours. Yesterday morning, the skies over Taos were hazy and dark as though it were dusk; the smell of smoke was potent. As I made my way eastward to Philmont around midday, the skies over the Moreno Valley were damp with moisture. On through the Cimarron Canyon there was hail and even puddles of water--something we in New Mexico have not seen in many months. Rain showers blessed the Ranch and neighboring areas for much of the afternoon yesterday and brought with it a considerable drop in temperature. (Reports have it that there was snow on Wheeler). The rain and cooler temperatures have surely helped to slow down--at least--the fires. Last night the Philmont Staff Association sponsored the first-of-the-summer Staff Coffee House, held under the huge bays at the Welcome Center. It was indeed a wonderful evening of fellowship and high entertainment. I was most impressed by the assorted talents of today's Philmont staff. Mark Anderson (Philmont's Director of Program) did a.......er....."remarkable" rendition of "My Country 'Tis of Thee" and the "Philmont Hymn" on the Saw. (No joke). He also reported on the current condition of the fires and back country. This is what he reported: The fires have burned approximately 60,000 acres (yes, that's 60 thousand); about 20,000 of that is on Philmont. Ponil and all of the buildings at Ponil, including Dave Ott's house are intact. The area immediately surrounding the Ponil buildings is--thanks to the incredible courage of our volunteer firefighters-- preserved. The staff cabins at the following camps are intact: Indian Writings Dan Beard Rich Cabins Head of Dean Pueblano In many of these places though the fires came right up to the buildings. They still don't know the status of Dean Cow or Santa Claus. The fires swept through the Dean canyons; most of the Trail Camps in that area are gone or are expected to be gone. Philmont management plans to make some big decisions regarding the summer and campers, etc. tomorrow (Thursday) and will make announcements accordingly. Spirits seem relatively high considering the stress and uncertainty of recent events. Currently the sun is out and breaking through immense puffy clouds; the mountains are hazy. The air smells clear and fresh after yesterday's rains, although the smell of smoke is intensifying again. There is a 40% chance of rain again today; 50% for tonight... Please keep Philmont in your prayers. Dawn Chandler Executive Director, PSA | |
| From Linda Anderson The fact remains that all the buildings at Ponil are presently intact. As a result of the extreme drought, there was not enough grass in the meadow or around the buildings to support the fire and it did not even burn over near them. This was an eye-witness report from one of the fire fighters who watched the fire burn through Ponil. The only thing lost at Rich Cabins was the chicken coop. The house had been gelled and the area around it back burned. The cabins at Indian Writings are also intact, even though the vegetation all around them was burned. The same is true for Dan Beard and Pueblano. Dean Cow and much of Dean Canyon is still unknown- no one has been able to get in there yet. The fact that so many buildings are still standing in the wake of this fire is truly amazing, if not miraculous! I hope this helps to clear up some rumors" (6/5/02) | |
| From Angela Foster Hadaway, living in Trinidad NM, "we are actually getting SOME rain right now. The smoke is clear, and we can actually breath." (6/4/02) | |
| There was rain at Philmont, no reports of how much or how long, but rain none the less. (6/4/02) | |
| From Linda Anderson: The good news is that the fire has burned past Ponil and all of the buildings there were saved! The fire blackened everything around them, but firefighters held their ground and continuously soaked the buildings. Philmont's roots have been preserved! Today is cooler- in the upper 60's. There is a 60% chance of rain this afternoon and evening. Please pray for lots of rain with no lightning! (6/4/02) | |
| From Mark Blakemore "We have two crews scheduled for check-in on June 9. Logistics told us at noon CDT today that no treks are to be cancelled, itineraries will be changed for some, North Country is closed, Ranch management will meet on June 6 for decisions, wind is currently blowing to the south and to come as planned." (6/4/02) | |
| The new staff cabin at Santa Claus has burned down (as of 6/3/02) | |
| Rich Cabins has been burnt, not entirely, but some part of it is still standing (as of 6/3/02) | |
| Indian Writings, Ponil, and Pueblano are in jeopardy (as of 6/3/02) | |
| One estimated had 11% of the Ranch has burnt, another had estimated 4,000 to 6,000 acres is correct. (as of 6/3/02) |
From Andrew Dennis (6/4/02):
"The place is on fire. At times you can't see the
Tooth and can't say that I've seen any of the peaks since I have been here. At
6pm last night driving through Trinidad the smoke was so thick that the street
likes were on. We are planning to scatter Thursday, but that might not happen.
We may all be doing firefighter program for the summer. It really is terrible,
the smoke, no sun, etc."
"I don't have a good sense of the fire right now. All I
can tell you is that it's big, real big. The smoke is making it really hard to
breath. I have seen some fires on the ranch in past years and there was a bit of
smoke that makes its way to base, but this is so much bigger.
When I got in last night a guy in logistics asked if they had
reopened Cimarron. Apparently it's getting real close to town and they had to
close the road for a while."
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Pictures: [all are clickable for a larger image]
Pictures of the fire fighting crew in action
| Gallery #1- 6/3/02 - 6/7/02 | |
| Gallery #2- 6/7/02 - 6/10/02 | |
| Gallery #3- 6/10/02 - 6/11/02 Includes Ring Place | |
| Gallery #4- 6/11/02 - 6/12/02 Includes Philmont staff getting briefed on protective equipment | |
| Gallery #5- 6/12/02 - 6/14/02 | |
| Gallery #6- 6/10/02 - 6/15/02 Skycrane pictures | |
| Gallery #7- 6/14/02 - 6/15/02 Includes pictures of French Henry |
Official pictures from the State Forest Service HQ, Cimarron, and from the air- http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/fire/images/photo-gallery/nms/
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